Sunday, September 18, 2011

"Like Mother, like daughter"

I will always be your mother

These are the word my mother says to me anytime she does anything to get me mad. Whether she is right or wrong, whether I am right or wrong, she will always be my mother. Whether I would love her or hate her, whether I would stay with her or abandon her, whether I would deny her to others or she deny me to others, she will always be my mother. Whether I change my name, change my look, change my address, change my biography, change my history or change anything about me, she will always be my mother. Whether I try to speak different than she taught me, act different than she taught me, behave different than she taught me, look different than she taught me, she will always be my mother. Whatever I have done, whatever I am doing, whatever I will do will not change who my mother is. She will always be my mother.

The same is with the relationship between “BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH” and her Prostitutes Daughters.

Let us brief ourselves with the description and coming judgment of the Babylon the Great, the Mother of Prostitutes and all the abominations of the earth:

Revelation 17

Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, "Come, I will show you the judgment of the great prostitute who is seated on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth have committed sexual immorality, and with the wine of whose sexual immorality the dwellers on earth have become drunk." And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness, and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was full of blasphemous names, and it had seven heads and ten horns. The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and jewels and pearls, holding in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of her sexual immorality. And on her forehead was written a name of mystery: "Babylon the great, mother of prostitutes and of earth’s abominations." And I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.

When I saw her, I marveled greatly. But the angel said to me, "Why do you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman, and of the beast with seven heads and ten horns that carries her. The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit and go to destruction. And the dwellers on earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel to see the beast, because it was and is not and is to come. This calls for a mind with wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated; they are also seven kings, five of whom have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he does come he must remain only a little while. As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven, and it goes to destruction. And the ten horns that you saw are ten kings who have not yet received royal power, but they are to receive authority as kings for one hour, together with the beast. These are of one mind, and they hand over their power and authority to the beast. They will make war on the Lamb, and the Lamb will conquer them, for he is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those with him are called and chosen and faithful."

And the angel said to me, "The waters that you saw, where the prostitute is seated, are peoples and multitudes and nations and languages. And the ten horns that you saw, they and the beast will hate the prostitute. They will make her desolate and naked, and devour her flesh and burn her up with fire, for God has put it into their hearts to carry out his purpose by being of one mind and handing over their royal power to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. And the woman that you saw is the great city that has dominion over the kings of the earth."

Revelation 18

After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was made bright with his glory. And he called out with a mighty voice,

"Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great!
She has become a dwelling place for demons,
a haunt for every unclean spirit,
a haunt for every unclean bird,
a haunt for every unclean and detestable beast.
For all nations have drunk
the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality,
and the kings of the earth have committed immorality with her,
and the merchants of the earth have grown rich from the power of her luxurious living."

Then I heard another voice from heaven saying,

"Come out of her, my people,
lest you take part in her sins,
lest you share in her plagues; for her sins are heaped high as heaven,
and God has remembered her iniquities.
Pay her back as she herself has paid back others,
and repay her double for her deeds;
mix a double portion for her in the cup she mixed.
As she glorified herself and lived in luxury,
so give her a like measure of torment and mourning,
since in her heart she says,
'I sit as a queen,
I am no widow,
and mourning I shall never see.'
For this reason her plagues will come in a single day,
death and mourning and famine,
and she will be burned up with fire;
for mighty is the Lord God who has judged her."

And the kings of the earth, who committed sexual immorality and lived in luxury with her, will weep and wail over her when they see the smoke of her burning. They will stand far off, in fear of her torment, and say,

"Alas! Alas! You great city,
you mighty city, Babylon!
For in a single hour your judgment has come."

And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn for her, since no one buys their cargo anymore, cargo of gold, silver, jewels, pearls, fine linen, purple cloth, silk, scarlet cloth, all kinds of scented wood, all kinds of articles of ivory, all kinds of articles of costly wood, bronze, iron and marble, cinnamon, spice, incense, myrrh, frankincense, wine, oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and slaves, that is, human souls.
"The fruit for which your soul longed
has gone from you,
and all your delicacies and your splendors
are lost to you,
never to be found again!"

The merchants of these wares, who gained wealth from her, will stand far off, in fear of her torment, weeping and mourning aloud,
"Alas, alas, for the great city
that was clothed in fine linen,

in purple and scarlet,
adorned with gold,

with jewels, and with pearls!
For in a single hour all this wealth has been laid waste."

And all shipmasters and seafaring men, sailors and all whose trade is on the sea, stood far off and cried out as they saw the smoke of her burning,

"What city was like the great city?"

And they threw dust on their heads as they wept and mourned, crying out,

"Alas, alas, for the great city
where all who had ships at sea
grew rich by her wealth!
For in a single hour she has been laid waste. Rejoice over her, O heaven,
and you saints and apostles and prophets,
for God has given judgment for you against her!"

Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying,

"So will Babylon the great city be thrown down with violence,
and will be found no more;
and the sound of harpists and musicians, of flute players and trumpeters,
will be heard in you no more,
and a craftsman of any craft
will be found in you no more,
and the sound of the mill
will be heard in you no more,
and the light of a lamp
will shine in you no more,
and the voice of bridegroom and bride
will be heard in you no more,
for your merchants were the great ones of the earth,
and all nations were deceived by your sorcery.
And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints,
and of all who have been slain on earth."


Now the most widely accepted identifications of the Mother of Prostitutes by the churches fall into two camps; Those that believe she is United States of America (USA) and those that believe she is the Roman Catholic Church (RCC). If you do a google search of “who is Babylon the Great” you will find thousands of “Christian” websites that calm she is either the USA or RCC. If you go through the description of the Babylon the Great yourself from Rev 17 and 18, you might be able to match up many of the descriptive scriptures with either the USA or RCC or both. You might find that some of the descriptive sriputures are quiet difficult to match with either. Many people have put out strong and convincing cases against the USA and RCC declaring that one is Babylon the Great. It is my belief that the manner and motive I’ve seen people try to identify Babylon the Great is just like those who try to predicate the coming of the Lord and the “end of the world”; carnal and not spiritual.

Now the aim of this message is not to tell anyone who Babylon the Great is. I repeat, the aim of this message is not to tell you that Babylon the Great is or is not the USA nor is it to tell you that Babylon the great is or is not the Roman Catholic Church. This message is intended to bring something to the attention of those who are already convinced that she is the Roman Catholic Church and to give a final message on whoever Babylon the Great and her daughters will be revealed to be in the en to all those who have ears to hear. So to begin with, I am entering the camp of those that believe the RCC is Mystery Babylon to expose the greater extent of what this belief implies.

Daughters of Babylon, the Chaldeans of Babylon and

Prostitutes born of Babylon the Great

In Scriptures, there are many prophetic mentions of future (and current) events to befall Babylon, the daughters of Babylon and the Chaldeans of Babylon. Understand this: The daughters of Babylon, the Chaldeans of Babylon, the prostitutes born of Babylon the Great and Bablyon the Great herself are all of the same spirit, the same origin and will all have the same end.

Come down and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon; sit on the ground without a throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans! For you shall no more be called tender and delicate. Your nakedness shall be uncovered, and your disgrace shall be seen. I will take vengeance, and I will spare no one. Isaiah 47:1,3

Sit in silence, and go into darkness, O daughter of the Chaldeans; for you shall no more be called the mistress of kingdoms. I was angry with my people; I profaned my heritage; I gave them into your hand; you showed them no mercy; on the aged you made your yoke exceedingly heavy. You said, “I shall be mistress forever,” so that you did not lay these things to heart or remember their end. Now therefore hear this, you lover of pleasures,
who sit securely, who say in your heart, “I am, and there is no one besides me;
I shall not sit as a widow or know the loss of children”: These two things shall come to you
in a moment, in one day; the loss of children and widowhood shall come upon you in full measure, in spite of your many sorceries and the great power of your enchantments. Isaiah 47:5-9

“Behold, I will stir up the spirit of a destroyer against Babylon, They shall fall down slain in the land of the Chaldeans, and wounded in her streets. 5 For Israel and Judah have not been forsaken by their God, the Lord of hosts, but the land of the Chaldeans is full of guilt
against the Holy One of Israel. 6 “Flee from the midst of Babylon; let every one save his life!
Be not cut off in her punishment, for this is the time of the Lord's vengeance, the repayment he is rendering her. 7 Babylon was a golden cup in the Lord's hand, making all the earth drunken; the nations drank of her wine; therefore the nations went mad. 8 Suddenly Babylon has fallen and been broken; wail for her! Jer 5:4-8

“Set up a standard against the walls of Babylon; make the watch strong; set up watchmen;
prepare the ambushes; for the Lord has both planned and done what he spoke concerning the inhabitants of Babylon. 13 O you who dwell by many waters, rich in treasures,
your end has come; the thread of your life is cut. 14 The Lord of hosts has sworn by himself: Surely I will fill you with men, as many as locusts, and they shall raise the shout of victory over you. Jer 5:12-14

O daughter of Babylon, doomed to be destroyed, blessed shall he be who repays you with what you have done to us! Psalm 137:8

For thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: The daughter of Babylon is like a threshing floor at the time when it is trodden; yet a little while and the time of her harvest will come.” Jeremiah 51:33

Up! Escape to Zion, you who dwell with the daughter of Babylon. Zechariah 2:7

“Come, I will show you the judgment of the great prostitute who is seated on many waters. The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and jewels and pearls, holding in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of her sexual immorality. And on her forehead was written a name of mystery: “Babylon the great, mother of prostitutes and of earth’s abominations.” And I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. When I saw her, I marveled greatly. Rev17:1,4-6


The Roman Catholic Church


her daughters; Denominations, Sects and all of the churches of men

in Christianity

Before all her daughters came into existence, she existed, the Roman Catholic Church, Catholicism. The word “catholic” comes from the Greek adjective katholikos, meaning "universal". Indeed she is the Universal Church of the world with much to boast about; the richest, largest membership (1.2 billion), the most connected and influential church in all the world. She has served for centuries. She has served many wars, many rebellions for 100s of years. She was and still is the mother church of the world. All the churches of men originated from her bosom. All the denominations and sects of Christianity have in their family tree the Roman Catholic Church deep down in their roots. She was the first of her kind, and from her came her many rebellious daughters. They learned everything they know from her from. Oh how they wish they could change history, change who their mother is, but they can’t. How they which the things the mother church did could be erased, but it can’t. Mother and daughters had their difference, very legitimate difference. But they weren’t completely divided on everything. Even after their divorce, they still shared between them many many things. They shared a lot of things in common but the noise and uproar was and still is mostly about their differences. They were once one happy family for a long long long time. It wasn’t all bad all the time. But when the daughters of mother church grew up, there were some very serious things they didn’t want to stomach anymore. They wanted to be their own mothers, to run away from home and live their own lives. They wanted their own doctrines, customs, rituals, traditions and practices and not their mothers anymore. But when it came time to separate, it wasn’t a complete divorce. Her daughters didn’t feel the need to do away with everything concerning their mother. Some things were thrown out, and some were kept. They kept some practices, some beliefs, some customs, so traditions, some procedures and added their own spice and flavor to them. How sad for mother church and her daughters relationship began with such devotion, loyalty and unity but later grew into a bitter feud and power struggle. The daughters did not agree with their mother on so many levels, and their mother just could not stand such a rebellion coming from the fruit of her own womb, from her own house. It was treason. Eventually they could not live together anymore. They fought, they quarreled, they clashed and they divided. Her mother kicked her daughters out and her daughter ran away from home. Mother did many horrible and terrible things to her daughters in their attempt to split and be different. But when her daughters had their independence, their hands did not stay clean, their hands become bloody…like mother like daughter. But what is this we hear and read? Her daughters were said to have reformed. Reformed? Reformation they say? What does that mean, to reform?

1. To improve by alteration, correction of error, or removal of defects; put into a better form or condition.

2. a. To abolish abuse or malpractice in: reform the government. b. To put an end to (a wrong).

3. To cause (a person) to give up harmful or immoral practices; persuade to adopt a better way of life.


To change for the better.


1. A change for the better; an improvement.

2. Correction of evils, abuses, or errors.

3. Action to improve social or economic conditions without radical or revolutionary change.

To those who believe the Roman Catholic Church is Babylon the great, mother of prostitutes and of earth’s abominations, my question to you is…how then can you reform her? Can you reform the mother, the source, the original Prostitute of all prostitutes? Can men change what is evil into good by reformation? Consider the word of the Lord:

“Thus says the Lord of hosts: Ask the priests about the law: ‘If someone carries holy meat in the fold of his garment and touches with his fold bread or stew or wine or oil or any kind of food, does it become holy?’” The priests answered and said, “No.” Then Haggai said, “If someone who is unclean by contact with a dead body touches any of these, does it become unclean?” The priests answered and said, “It does become unclean.” Then Haggai answered and said, “So is it with this people, and with this nation before me, declares the Lord, and so with every work of their hands. And what they offer there is unclean. Haggai 2:11-14

Scriptures say, “ The Son of God came to destroy the works of the devil” Is Mystery Babylon whom many have identified as the Roman Catholic Church not a work of Satan? Did Jesus come to reform the works of Satan or to destroy them? Of who’s seed is the RCC? The incorruptible seed of God?!?! Can the fruit of a seed be different from what it always has produced? Can the original tree bring forth different branches that bear different fruit? Can an apple tree bear grapes? Can an apple tree bear grapes, oranges and peaches, and then can its peaches bear lemons and pineapples and then its pineapples bear strawberries and cherries? Is this not how the tree of Christianity has grown into? Denominations within denominations, sects within sects, this man’s horde of churches and another man’s various branches, all with differences and divisions. Is this the order of God? Is this the house of God? Is this Gods Olive tree? Are these all Jesus’ candlesticks? Is Christ the vine of all these competing and conflicting branches that bear a mix of fruits? Is Christ divided?

Oh daughters of your mother! Daughters of the Roman Catholic Church! You are different in many ways from her, but the true remains that you share many similarities and are very much alike, inside and out! You fool no one but those already fooled. The truth is, as different as you try to be, you are the same as your mother and your sisters. You are of the same seed. Like mother, like daughter. I have seen it! I have heard it! I have sat among you, your universal mother even I have sat with. I have sat among the eldest daughters who are more traditional and orthodox. I have sat among the younger daughters, who are more modern and secular. I have noticed you all have a routine of activities for your assembling, essentially the same activities with a little twist here and there, a little variation, a little something different. I have noticed how many usually dress up and put on nice fragrances for church, yet a few don’t mind to dress down. I have gone through your morning and evening services and your masses. I have gone to their assemblies when it was on Sunday Sabbath day, Saturday Sabbath day and the Lord’s day. I have seen your magnificent church buildings and your modest ones. How big they are and how small others can be in comparison. I have noticed that the small modest ones are always hoping and praying to be like the bigger glamorous ones. I see you are all passionate about growth, growth in the number of your churches and “membership”. I have sat in your high places; in air condition, under fans, and under the sun. I have seen your leaders mount glamorous pulpits and others just get on stages, in front of everyone with all attention on them. I have noticed your clergymen and your associate pastors and elders always in the front of the church and/or near the leader, set apart from everyone else. I have heard your sermons and listen to you preach, with zeal and with calm. I have sat in pews and plastic chairs; in the front, in the back and up top. I see more of the backs of regular members than I do of their faces. I have seen your high places equipped with state of the art music and sound equipment and others with just a mic, electric keyboard and clapping hands. I have prayed when it was time to pray silently and loudly. I have recited your recitals that everyone had memorized or was reading from a book and have spoken after the words, prayers and declarations of your leaders who would say, “Repeat after me…” I partook of your lively “praise and worship” with song and dance and at other places I have sung along where you preferred sublime intimate hymns. I have listened to your choirs and individuals sing solos. I have given offerings and alms and paid tithes. I have partaken in your ritual called communion when it was offered to all and I have refrained from it when it was restricted to only “members”. I have partaken of communion when it was said to be the “actually blood and body” and when it was said to be symbolic. After church I have seen your leaders from a distance and in other cases I shook hands with them. I have seen them dressed in gowns and in suits. I have read books on the doctrines specific to the beliefs of a particular church. Some of them had their own publications and their churches were restricted in using only their own material and none other. I have read from some of the bibles they have specially translated for their members and churches to use. I have gotten involved in extracurricular church activities such as prayer meetings, bible studies, evangelism and “make sure to bring someone to church next Sunday”.

I visited their mother and several of her daughters and I have partaken in each ones “style” of worship, praise and service to God. I joined each one’s temple of god and experienced each one’s god and christ.

After all this, I was tired, confused, unsatisfied and lost. I heard a calling one day to “returned to my Father’s house”. This voice, this silent whisper, lead me home. When I returned I was received with open arms by my Father and my perfect big brother. Father threw a party for me and gave me a ring as well. Big brother was the happiest of all at my return home. Big Brother promised to teach me, to give me rest and give me everything I needed to do the will of our Father. And here I am today.

When I looked back at all the places I had been I realized one thing, they were and still are, all the same. The universal church and her daughters are the same. The outward appearance may vary, but the heart of them all is the same. The daughters can hate their mother with all your heart and attempted to be as different from her as night and day. Their mother can continue to boast about being the first and the original and continue to disown and not recognize the “legitimacy” of her daughters to be just as hers. But the truth remains in what she says in her heart when she looks at all her rebellious daughters scattered all over the world, “I will always be your mother”.

As the prophet Ezekiel said and so it hold true to this very day…“Behold, everyone who uses proverbs will use this proverb about you: ‘Like mother, like daughter.’

The Lord’s simple and unforced appeal:

“Come out of her, my people,
lest you take part in her sins,
lest you share in her plagues;
for her sins are heaped high as heaven,
and God has remembered her iniquities.”

But they have said Reformation, they have said we are different from them, they say you don’t know about my church. They rebelled and continue to rebel, not against their mother, but against GOD. They are a stiff necked people, a rebellious house. Those who have ears to hear should hear, those who have eyes to see should see…Just come out….And come onto Jesus Christ for judgment awaits Babylon the Great and her Prostitute daughters. Judgment awaits RCC and her reformed churches. Judgment awaits Christianity and her divided denominations and sects and endless churches of men. Judgment awaits all those who bear the name of the Lord, the entire household of God and to all who calm to obey the Gospel of God. There is no speak of rapture before Judgment. “For as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment.” Hebrews 9:27

“For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?” 1 Pete 4:17

Come out and take no more part in her sins, share not in her plagues. Return to the Father. Cling onto the Lord alone, be joined to Him alone. Be yoked to Him alone. The family of God are not those who church, it is not the church members that form the Household of God, it is not the church members that are Jesus’ mother, brother and sister…it is those who do the will of the Father in Heaven! The Lord says,

“Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And stretching out His hand toward His disciples, He said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”

Be not a branch of Christianity but live as branch of the true vine; Jesus Christ.

“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned. If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. My Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be My disciples. Just as the Father has loved Me, I have also loved you; abide in My love. If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love. These things I have spoken to you so that My joy may be in you, and that your joy may be made full. “This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends. You are My friends if you do what I command you. No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you. You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you. This I command you, that you love one another. “If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A slave is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also. But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know the One who sent Me. If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. He who hates Me hates My Father also. John 15

Finally give ear to this word and give eye to this vision all inhabitants of the world….


anyone who claims she that the United States of America (or any other nation) is “BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH”


…remember that whatever will happen to mother will happen to daughter. Whatever happens to mother will happen to her offspring. Whatever will happen to the source will happen to those who copy and imitate it…be it a person, a church, a nation or anything because Like mother, like daughter”

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